If you scroll down the main page a little, you’ll see I was away from this blog for quite a while, I didn’t even post nothing in May. And so, I wasn’t paying much attention to the comments (sorry guys, just finished replying to them :P). Two comments in my first post about hacking the 5800 were asking how to modify files that are already in use by the system (most databases, font files (when in C: or E:), resource files, etc), I had already said just to “look around”. Well, that’s no good! In this post I’ll make a guide on how.
First, get a file manager that has an option to ask “Are you sure you want to exit?”. I hate UIs that do that, but they’re useful here (lol). My choice would be the manufacturer capabilities enabled ActiveFile (signing/hacking required), the UI is glitchy on 5th edition (supposedly a fix is coming soon), but I prefer ActiveFile over any other manager on 3rd edition. (right now I use Y-Browser for everyday tasks and ActiveFile for stuff like this, on my 5800)
Now for the part where the magic happens. Ever since 2nd edition (or even first, don’t remember) S60 had this backup function on the memory card app/built-in file browser, it makes a copy of modified files from C:/ to a hidden folder on E:/. It was incredibly useful on 2nd edition for making app backups, it got kinda broken on 3rd because of security (lol), and it’s back in a refreshed form in 5th. But how does it copy files from C: without the OS complaining? That’s right, it lowers (momentarily) the security!
The thing is, this backup function closes every other app open on the phone, and stops the menu from being able to launch apps while the backup is on progress, in order to protect those files. That’s where the “Ask on exit” option comes to play! The backup app can’t close ActiveFile because it can’t answer Yes for the question. (lol)
So switch to ActiveFile using the menu key, answer No to the “Do you want to exit?” and you’re left with an unprotected file system and an open file manager with all files capability. Yay.
Now for a couple tips:
- On the backup contents part, I suggest just selecting Contacts, Calendar and Messages, as selecting all will give you a lot of time to mess with files, but increases the chances of a crash/wrong file to mess up something on your phone.
- Speaking of time, you only have from when it says “Creating backup” to when it says “Backup complete” to modify files. This won’t work while the message reads “Preparing for backup”. Do a backup once and just look at how much time it is.
- If you want to copy something to C:\Private\100012a5, don’t leave the source file in E:\, copy it first so C:\Private, or leave it on the clipboard before starting the backup. Again, for speed reasons.
- Keep in mind that system files are case sensitive, if you’re using this method to copy over the bookmarks files as I showed in that other post, rename the file to have the exact same capitalization. Lol.db isn’t the same as LOL.db.
And there you go, huge wall of text, but I tried to explain every aspect of this trick throughly. If you want a tl;dr version of the post, I’ll add it here:
- Get ActiveFile 1.42, activate ask on exit.
- Use the built in file manager to start a backup.
- While the phone is backuping, switch back to ActiveFile. All files are fair game to copy/delete.
Update: The new ActiveFile V1.43RC1 quits on backuping, breaking this method. Keep a V1.42 sis around to do this.




7 Comments
Thanks a bunch fernando!
I would have considered myself an expert when it comes to symbian,
but I never knew about this trick! Very nice! Thanks again! Will try in a few minutes !
aonir
Probably a bit of a stupid question, but . . .
I’m running an N97 RM-505 Vodafone UK Branded with FW11.0.021 and when I use Active File Basic (as Active File extended has issues on the N97) I don’t see the private folder on the C: drive. Any ideas?
BTW How do you get your avatar to appear on these. Noticed yours appears over at http://conversations.nokia.com too. Just wondered, as can’t figure out how to get it to appear there either. cheers
Can’t get the manufacturer’s version of Active file signed and Y-Browser doesn’t show the private folders either.
Unfortunately, the N97 still isn’t hackeable (as far as I know, this http://symbianism.com/tips-tricks-how-tos-mobiles-only/10429-hack-your-s60v5-nokia-5800-n97-allow-you-install-unsigned-applications-2.html being my source), so you can’t get the manufacturer’s version of Active File to install. And unfortunately that’s a requirement.
Also, regarding the avatars, they are gravatars, http://www.gravatar.com/, follow the instructions to associate an avatar to your email, and it’ll show up on every site that uses those.
Thanks fernando.
I thought that was probably the case, but was getting hopeful. Need to come up with a way to get the config file or download folder for Software Update as Nokia aren’t responding to my pleas about providing an alternative source for OVI Contacts (Sofwtare Update thinks the install file is already on my phone and so does not download and just installs and fails) and N-Gage (don’t have the option to download and install via Software Update).
Re Gravatar: Thanks for that. Since posting I had got it sorted. Looked into the source code of your website. hope you don’t mind and worked out I needed to visit http://www.gravatar.com. Hence the image by my name now.
BTW: Do you tweet. (www.twitter.com/MartynBrett)
Is there a way you can post the combined file? I’m having an especially hard time producing results with FontForger…
Thank you